Post by Indeo on Jun 15, 2006 18:40:33 GMT 8
source: FAS
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Author: pdw1
Transcript:
This is actually just one small step towards the greater goal of achieving airsoft legality throughout the Philippines. But we also have to give credit to you guys in the NCR for doing a bolder and bigger move of approaching the PNP through your position papers. Should one be raised before the Congress, its helluva feat in itself.
We should not fear failure.
Though far from the capital where our contribution may not be heard especially during your meetings but i cant help but admire the moves of Fallujah. Honestly i'm getting insights from his actions and learning from it. And so with Jarhead whose paper was equally inspiring and was one of the most informative post i have read so far (posted in FAS May 11, 2006). Actually i was learning from their arguments. sorry guys from mentioning it.
It now appears that we are fighting towards airsoft legality in different fronts but with the same objective. An objective which i think will benefit everyone.
If a national law is hard to pass then i think the countryside can make its own move through resolutions.
What is happening in Cebu City may not be one that is difficult to replicate in other logal government units in the country.
This is what happened:
1. A city councilor, sponsored a resolution 05-1392 which sought to amend City Ordinance No. 1743 prohibiting the selling and possession of toy guns that look like real guns.
2. A public hearing was scheduled and there everything became open for discussion. Pros and cons were heard.
3. Now it is subject for further deliberation. We are being ask to submit our position paper for a committee to study.
Hopefully it will be on our favor. It's going to be long and tough walk but we will not give in until we prevail.
During this hearing which transpired on 2:30PM June 14, 2006, we in the airsoft community were given the floor to speak out. ASG and our team NSW-8 were there. If only other teams were there, it would have been much better. But anyway, we were speaking not for out teams but for all airsoft enthusiast in the city.
In that hearing, we proposed the following:
- Instead of prohibitng the possession of replica firearms, we proposed that the same be regulated. By regulation we mean that we submit ourselves to the supervision of the Firearms and Explosives Division of the PNP. We further proposed that we register our teams, our names and game sites to this agency. This was acceptable to the FED but we were cautioned to maintain status quo for the reason that there is a forthcoming Rules and Regulations from Camp Crame on Airsoft. It says that this will come out on a month or two.
I think this is the fruit of the efforts of those who made the initial moves with Camp Crame. Whoever they may be our hats are off to them. I can only hope it will come to us lightly.
The prohibitions set by LOI 1264 which we consider as a valid and existing law (please correct me on this) are limited only to the manufacturing, importation, distribution, selling and display. Possession is not included as pointed out by Jarhead. This is one of the reason why we argued to change the wordings in the current ordinance (Ord. 1743) from PROHIBITION ON POSSESSION to REGULATION.
I have read somewhere in the Local Government Code just cant remember where, that Local Government Units have the power to regulate acts which are not prohibited by national Law. This is what we capitalized in our argument.
The above move is actually a better choice over the option of questioning its validity. We surely need help from others in the community if we choose the latter.
It is important to note that the said current cebu city ordinance penalizes violators to a fine of P500 or imprisonment of 6 months to 1 year. Quiet harsh huh!
It is therefore a MISIMPRESSION that we in Cebu City are lucky. The fact is, our current ordinance expands the prohibition of LOI 1264 to include possession only that the PNP are our friends just like in the NCR and any other provinces.
Though we understand that our move is not perfect, but this is the best that we can go at this point in time.
Our team is just thankful that we have such City councilors who have have the vision and foresight of seeing airsoft's potential rather than its darker side.
To others in other provinces, i think its not difficult to open a forum with your politicans. Approach one i'm sure you can.
Request them to pass a resolution to regulate or legalize if you dare, airsoft.
The faster move i think is draft a resolution yourself and give it to your politician friend for signature. Keep on following it up until it is called for hearing. Dont give up. Once it is called for hearing, come in droves and request to speak. Let yourself be heard in the four walls of the session halls it is yours anyway.
We should not fear failure.
Until then.
Mabuhay ang airsoft!
robertyance.powweb.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=3025#3025
Author: pdw1
Transcript:
This is actually just one small step towards the greater goal of achieving airsoft legality throughout the Philippines. But we also have to give credit to you guys in the NCR for doing a bolder and bigger move of approaching the PNP through your position papers. Should one be raised before the Congress, its helluva feat in itself.
We should not fear failure.
Though far from the capital where our contribution may not be heard especially during your meetings but i cant help but admire the moves of Fallujah. Honestly i'm getting insights from his actions and learning from it. And so with Jarhead whose paper was equally inspiring and was one of the most informative post i have read so far (posted in FAS May 11, 2006). Actually i was learning from their arguments. sorry guys from mentioning it.
It now appears that we are fighting towards airsoft legality in different fronts but with the same objective. An objective which i think will benefit everyone.
If a national law is hard to pass then i think the countryside can make its own move through resolutions.
What is happening in Cebu City may not be one that is difficult to replicate in other logal government units in the country.
This is what happened:
1. A city councilor, sponsored a resolution 05-1392 which sought to amend City Ordinance No. 1743 prohibiting the selling and possession of toy guns that look like real guns.
2. A public hearing was scheduled and there everything became open for discussion. Pros and cons were heard.
3. Now it is subject for further deliberation. We are being ask to submit our position paper for a committee to study.
Hopefully it will be on our favor. It's going to be long and tough walk but we will not give in until we prevail.
During this hearing which transpired on 2:30PM June 14, 2006, we in the airsoft community were given the floor to speak out. ASG and our team NSW-8 were there. If only other teams were there, it would have been much better. But anyway, we were speaking not for out teams but for all airsoft enthusiast in the city.
In that hearing, we proposed the following:
- Instead of prohibitng the possession of replica firearms, we proposed that the same be regulated. By regulation we mean that we submit ourselves to the supervision of the Firearms and Explosives Division of the PNP. We further proposed that we register our teams, our names and game sites to this agency. This was acceptable to the FED but we were cautioned to maintain status quo for the reason that there is a forthcoming Rules and Regulations from Camp Crame on Airsoft. It says that this will come out on a month or two.
I think this is the fruit of the efforts of those who made the initial moves with Camp Crame. Whoever they may be our hats are off to them. I can only hope it will come to us lightly.
The prohibitions set by LOI 1264 which we consider as a valid and existing law (please correct me on this) are limited only to the manufacturing, importation, distribution, selling and display. Possession is not included as pointed out by Jarhead. This is one of the reason why we argued to change the wordings in the current ordinance (Ord. 1743) from PROHIBITION ON POSSESSION to REGULATION.
I have read somewhere in the Local Government Code just cant remember where, that Local Government Units have the power to regulate acts which are not prohibited by national Law. This is what we capitalized in our argument.
The above move is actually a better choice over the option of questioning its validity. We surely need help from others in the community if we choose the latter.
It is important to note that the said current cebu city ordinance penalizes violators to a fine of P500 or imprisonment of 6 months to 1 year. Quiet harsh huh!
It is therefore a MISIMPRESSION that we in Cebu City are lucky. The fact is, our current ordinance expands the prohibition of LOI 1264 to include possession only that the PNP are our friends just like in the NCR and any other provinces.
Though we understand that our move is not perfect, but this is the best that we can go at this point in time.
Our team is just thankful that we have such City councilors who have have the vision and foresight of seeing airsoft's potential rather than its darker side.
To others in other provinces, i think its not difficult to open a forum with your politicans. Approach one i'm sure you can.
Request them to pass a resolution to regulate or legalize if you dare, airsoft.
The faster move i think is draft a resolution yourself and give it to your politician friend for signature. Keep on following it up until it is called for hearing. Dont give up. Once it is called for hearing, come in droves and request to speak. Let yourself be heard in the four walls of the session halls it is yours anyway.
We should not fear failure.
Until then.
Mabuhay ang airsoft!